Have Radio mix as default play setting

[craponly]

Feature description:

The feature (maybe make it a toggle) should overwrite the current “standard” play setting and make “radio mix” the default play setting for the queue.

Problem solved:

When searching for a certain song, and playing it from the search, the next songs aren’t related to the one searched AT ALL.
I’m searching for a kid’s song to dance with my kid to and the next one that comes up is duality by slipknot. I have tinkered with the intelligent queue but it does not come near the radio mix which works just great.

With this feature, the upcoming songs will all be directly related and “radio mixed” to the one I started with.

It also solves the highly requested topic of radio mixing when using Android Auto since the default play setting is radio mix.

Brought benefits:

When radio mix is the standard playback mode/listening queue, users wouldn’t need to first press the three dots and activate radio mix to have a related and GOOD mix for the music.

Users could also choose to have radio mix as default so the playback with AA is much more satisfactory and not all over the place.

Other application solutions:

 
I think most usual streaming services do this already, i have used YT music before and it worked very good, when playing via headphones and when playing via AA.
 

Additional description and context:

 
I have absolutely NO problem of the short wait time before the radio mix, I do not want to blast my kids’ ears with metal when we were dancing to happy kiddie music.
When at home, I can of course go into the “now playing” screen and start the radio mix from there, but that restarts the current song and you have to remember it.

With Radio mix as the default playlist generation, there would also be WAY less problems with AA, because I do not want to take my eyes off the road.

Screenshot 1 is the generated playlist when I search and press play.
Screenshot 2 is the generated playlist with radio mix.

Using the genre mix doesn’t work because the song I chose as a starting point doesn’t even have a Genre written in its metadata, still the radio mix works flawless with the correct songs queued up.

Of course I could write the metadata myself but as you can see on the 1st screenshot, the (tagged!) genres are mixed anways.

 

Screenshots / Mockup:

 

 

 

 

[Tolriq]

You can use smart queues to stay on the genres, and you can put a radio mix button on the Android Auto interface too.

Radio mix is tied to the server having the feature + the server being online this can’t be a default option sorry.

[craponly]

Hi thanks for the (unsatisfying) answer.

I don’t want to sound obnoxious or talk like someone who knows better than the developers but the smart queue does not work as I wrote in the opening post, I have it on genre but it still mixes everything up, even with smart flow deactivated, that’s why I wanted to use radio mix as a default because then it works absolutely flawless.

I did not know the radio mix is server dependent, I thought only Sonic Analysis needs a “special” server.

I’m using navidrome as a subsonic server which is online all the time but I do understand that’s not the case for every user so it won’t be a default feature.

To fix my issue, could you elaborate and help me on how to get a radio mix button on android auto?

right now it looks like this:

https://imgur.com/a/v3TfFog

I’m using symfonium v 13.7.0 and Android Auto 15.9.655114. Car is a Skoda Octavia III from 2020 (model year 2019).

[Tolriq]

If you knew better than the dev you’d know to use search

Configure notification, media session, Android Auto buttons

Symfonium 7.0 allows you to configure the notification and media session buttons. Please note that those buttons are now linked and that the positioning of the skip next and skip previous are mostly enforced by Google. If you disable skip next and skip previous you have access to up to 5 options. (Depending on your OS version and where you are looking) Settings They are available from Settings/Playback/Configure notification, media session and headset buttons. [image] [image] Media sessi…

And yes Smart queue works as long as it have the data

[craponly]

Got me there lol.

Thank you for the link, I have set up the media session radio button, BUT that radio button does not work as intended and the generated playlist is all over the place again.

It still works perfectly fine when using one of the in-app-button for radio mix.

I know Xiaomi is a bit difficult with battery “optimization” but I have deactivated everything I could and gave every possible permission to symfonium.

It is strange since the other buttons work and the radio button does something, as in generating a playlist, but this playlist is by far inferior and unusable when compared to the one created with the in-app-buttons.

As you said, the radio mix is generated by the server, I have checked the messages between my phone and the server, from what I was able to understand, the phone sends “GET /rest/getSimilarSongs.view?id=X XXX" to the server and the server responds with similar songs.

This command seems to not be sent when using the radio button in the media session, instead the phone sends “GET /rest/stream”

I’m not a software engineer but do feel very incompetent right now and gaslighted by this radio button at the same time.