Sometimes losing resume points for audiobooks

Issue description:

I am using Symfonium also to listen to audiobooks and I use resume points to resume an audiobook where I left often. Sometimes when I open the audiobook in Symfonium, there is no option to resume.

Logs:

Upload description: Vbs resume

Additional information:

 
I cannot reproduce it reliable but I guess the more other music you switch to after listening to an audiobook the more likely it is that you lose the resume point.

I also use profiles to switch between different sets of libraries.
 

Reproduction steps:

 

  1. Listen to an audiobook
  2. Stop listening to an audiobook
  3. Listen to several other audio files (possibly from other libraries too)
  4. Open the audio book again in the next evening
  5. Find resume button not being offered (just missing from the UI)
     

Media provider:

Jellyfin

Screenshots:

     

Without a proper repro not much I can do.

Resume points are missing if the position is outside of saving them from your settings. Or the position is lost by the server and so lost after a sync.

Sorry I didn’t understand that. Can you rephrase please?

I wasn’t aware that Jellyfin stores resume points for music albums. I thought it does so only for movies and tv shows.

I should mention that I have set up my audiobooks as regular music albums in Jellyfin as audiobook library type has some major shortcomings.

There’s settings to control when resume point are saved, min position and max percentage.

Last played are synced for sure, don’t remember resume points for Jellyfin.

But I still need a repro to fix.

I don’t see a max percentage related to resume position. But I have min position on 10 seconds which is probably the default. So, when I assume this relates to an album (and not to individual tracks), then it should be fine and not the reason for the problem.

But it happened to me also in the mid of an album, so also a max percentage setting could not be the problem.

In my experience, for bugs that only happen sporadically, getting them reproduced is the hardest part of the job.

Is it possible that a resume position is lost when playing too many other tracks/albums after it? That’s at least how it feels to me.

The automatically saved queues (which would also allow me to resume an album) are also discarded after too many other queues have been created, right? Those two resume point mechanims are not related, right?

The option is just above … And both settings are related to tracks not albums.

Not possible.

Yes

Ahh okay, it reads “Min. percentage before marking as played”. I didn’t realize that it is also related to resume point but surely makes sense. The min option does mention resume point explicitly though.

Anyway, it is set to 95% (probably again the default) so it should also be fine.

Do you understand what those options do? As I just explained it’s PER SONG.

So if the song is paused / stopped before 10 seconds or after 95% played NO RESUME POINT WILL BE SAVED AND SO NOT RESUME BUTTON.

So no for audiobooks those values are usually not fine and should be fine tuned.

Sorry man, I actually overlooked that part in your answer. Really no reason to freak out please.

But then it could actually be the reason for the problem: The problem is that my audiobooks are usually separated into short tracks of like 3 to 5 minutes. So, when I pause the book and I just happen to be within the first 10 seconds or withing the last 5% of a given track then I get no resume point, which is sad.

Okay, so I learned the resume points are always track-based. But the resume button in the album view seems to targeting the album and not a specific track. Would be really nice to also have a resume point which is not related to tracks but is bound to an album.

Well you keep repeating the settings are fine ignore what I write at some point this is quite some time lost for no reasons :wink:

Just change the settings instead of being sad ? …

When you resume an album you resume a track at a position, so the album resume point is a track and a position as currently.

Not true, I did not say the settings are fine after I learned the resume points are track-based. And again my apologies for the sentence that I have missed.

What settings should I put? My only idea would be to set min to “0 seconds” and max to “100%” which means a track is never marked as played and every track will stay forever in “currently playing” state, no?

You did in each post before I had to repeat again and read the track part :wink: So yes I get bothered because of those, the order of posts is important :wink:

And yes you put 0 and 99 as 100 is not possible yet. That’s the minimal values, not the max, when a file is fully played then it does not have a resume point obviously.

It’s fine, I don’t want to fight you. :saluting_face:

Okay, i wil try that, thank you. That really could be the reason for my lost resume points.I will set those values and see if it will still happen. It would still happen even with those settings when I happen to pause/stop the audiobook in he last 1% of a track, right? Well, should happen really rarely I guess.
But still, having album-based resume points would be really nice :slight_smile:

Problem occured again even with the suggested settings applied.